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Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
November 27, 2007, 13:14

“ITS A BIRD, ITS A PLANE… NO ITS SANDYMAN!!!” 😆


Your totally right, I am so easily convinced about this one becausing giving a damn about my clothes seems too much like a waste of time, I mean I could be using it to READ or something! 😉


Really I’m not that bad I hope, what is “retro” in Australia is “old fashoned” in the US. They all perscribe to the “less is more” ideal and call me a fuddy duddy if you will but I like my shirt to meet my pants. I don’t think you can go wrong in jeans and even I am not dumb enough to belive that the ones with the elastic in the waistband and ankles are cool, no matter what my great grandmother says! 😆



Paul
 
Joined in 2007
November 27, 2007, 13:31

What on earth are you telling her?! Obviously neither of you have to walk down the street with Sandy 😆 and I”M embaressing?


I was a bit worried about the family first thing 😕 Why on earth would they want you to work for them anyway? I can just see you getting up there and saying something totally out of left feild like it’s possible God doesn’t change people and I am freinds with Anthony Venn Brown 😉 Might not go down so well.


You should tell me these things so as not to give me a panic attack in future young lady! 😆



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
November 27, 2007, 13:50

Well anyone looks like a dag in front of Mr GQ don’t they? Makes me wonder how I never picked you as gay before you always did have more dress sense than anyone I know, it’s SUCH a gay man thing you see 😉 but then I supose you already know that.


You can stop worrying about Family First, I didn’t tell you because I didn’t think “hey dad I got offered a job with the biggest pro-family, anti-gay Christian organisation in America” would go down so well. How did you find out anyway? You know I THOUGHT someone might have been tapping my calls! This HAS to stop ok? Stalking is not cool. 😉


Honestly I don’t know a whole lot about family first so I can’t tell you what they would think about my more liberal opinions. I can say that I would never affiliate myself with a Christian company I didn’t belive in 100%, this means that if I ever wanted to work for one I’d have to create my own and the world wouldn’t know what hit it!


As far as being friends with Anthony goes that has come in quite useful actually. It is SUCH a conversation starter! I can get away with being a conservative fuddy duudy if I make a few jokes and toss in “Oh and Anthony and I are practically best friends, I’m around his place at least once a week, didn’t you know? He just loves me so much and we agree all the time” 😆



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
November 27, 2007, 13:55

LOL Paul wink



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
November 27, 2007, 16:17

I feel honoured to have you as my friend Sandy…..I drop your name all the time as well. 😀



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
November 27, 2007, 16:25

speaking of family first here is a recent email I sent to steve fielding and cc’d Andrew Evans on. FYI


thank you…..and some thoughts for consideration

to:’[email protected]

cc: Andrew Evans ([email protected])

sent: Sat 03/11/07 16:07


Dear Steve


I wanted to say thanks for your response to and apology for your candidate’s Ben Jacobsen, comments about Charlie McKillop sexuality, reported in The Age and other media yesterday. http://www.theage.com.au/news/federalelection2007news/family-first-flip-on-candidate-sexuality/2007/11/01/1193619061412.html. You are right when you said they were inappropriate and offensive…….and it was important to acknowledge that.


I was pleased to hear you say recently in a TV interview that Family First was not anti-gay but pro-family. There is a big difference between those two things. It is unfortunate that the majority of the gay and lesbian community views Christians and the church in such a negative light but this is often justified. My hope is that eventually sanity will prevail and all people, especially those who call themselves Christians, will realise that same sex orientation is not a personal choice but the way we are wired and just as heterosexuals will fall in love and want to partner with someone of the opposite sex for us it is the same sex. My personal story bears that out. After 22 years of trying to do what I believed was the right thing…..that in truth, all I had was level of heterosexual functionality. In essence though, I was and always will be gay. In other words my marriage of 16 years was in many ways a lie, a pretend and not honouring to the women who had devoted her life to me. When I separated, it wasn’t only for me that I did that but for all of us so we could move on and begin to live our lives honestly.


I have many friends who are gay and lesbian couples and some are parents as well. It hurts me personally and offends them when their families and relationships are spoken of so disparagingly by certain portions of the church…..and of course some politicians. If only they would get to know the people I know, I’m sure they would see how wrong they have been. Our families and relationships are built on the same principles that heterosexual marriages and families are built on. That is, love, respect, trust and support. No relationship, same sex or opposite sex can survive without those key fundamentals.


Can I request that when speaking of families that you consider how hurt gay and lesbian parents are when all the love and commitment they have given to their children is devalued and demeaned. Gay and lesbian parents need all the support and encouragement they can be given to bring up their children to be successful in life and valued members of the community…….possibly they need more support. We give it to them in our community…….it seems incongruent that it doesn’t come from some places that claim to be the expression of Gods love in the world I.e. the church.


Thank you for taking this into consideration and if I can be of any help in these areas of discussion then please feel free to contact me.


Sincerely


Anthony Venn-Brown



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
November 27, 2007, 19:40

Well there you go! Like I said I know nothing about Family First, maybe I let an oppitunity go there. They always seemed so…. political that I never really bothered to give them the benifit of the doubt.


We will have to meet one day Anthony 😆



Adam
 
Joined in 2007
January 4, 2008, 21:51

Hi Everyone,


I just wanted to post something that I thought you all should hear because I know that Sandy has been copping some slack for being a fuddy duddy anoying Christian person lately 😆 and well it’s always a relief for the rest of us when we can put a tick in the pro side of the homosexuality conundrum for her…


As many of you are aware she up and left for America some months ago and has been living the student life, on campus partying, working and being far too high and mighty to call her old friends. Coincidently her dad came out last year, total shocker, and Paul and his partner Jeff joined Sandy and her sister for Christmas. We were all holding our breath let me tell you! Not only is Sandy the biggest old granny under 30 that we know but when she was four Sandy put a fork through her big sisters hand because she kept “putting her hand over my side of the table”. Cassie needed stiches…. hmmm. So we were prepared for fireworks.


Well her first bad move was to burst out laughing in the airport even before introductions were made, Jeff had worn a tie (see Sandy thinks wearing shoes is akin to “dressing up”) and her father had on a pink shirt (pastel mind you, he’s a very fashion concious man… makes you wonder if they are really related). Before pronouncing through tears of mirth “Oh God you are so GAY!” Um yes sweetheart… glad your finally with us on that one, the hand holding isn’t just for show.


So they spent a week shopping and freezing their butts off in the Big Apple. Those concious of social justice issues would be pleased to note that Paul got a half hour lecture on exactly how many orphans in Africa the Armarni coat he was wearing could have fed. Meanwhile back at home I was white in the face from holding my breath hoping that the words “immoral behavioural choice” wouldn’t come out of her mouth like word vomit.


There were some close calls on both sides like when Sandy denounced the Catholic Chruch and her mothers spiritual ancestory as “a load of crap” or when Jeff declared himself a breast man… Needless to say Sandy was delighted, Paul less so. I have been recently corrected on the cirumstances of that event though… I was told by a blonde someone that he said it in relation to chicks. Later it was discovered that chicken was the topic of conversation. To which the blonde replied “oh semantics!”.


However the true highlight of the Lowe family Christmas occured on New Years Eve. Sandy had decided to stay home… to do what exactly you might ask? Drink copious amounts of alcohol without the need to drive? Nooo not Sandy…. she stayed home to READ! And not just any book, you wouldn’t find this girl kicking back with a Jackie Collins or a Sandra Bown nope Sandy read “The sociology of work: why the ‘y’ generation is hooked” So, so, so sad. So obviously her father had full responsibility to pay her out big time for being such a complete and total dag. But as we know Sandy fights dirty so dirty in fact she picked up a Joe Dallas book soon after OUCH!


Yet we all know that New Years Eve is the only night of the year that begins at midday and doesn’t finnish till about six am the following day. At about 2am Jeff ventures into the territory of the ‘daughter in law’ he freely refers to as “the scary, scary Christian person”.


So Jeff sits down, quite nervous but thankfully without the tie this time and says “I just wanted you to know that I love your father, I know you don’t think I should but I do and I’d like you and I to be friends” to which I hope you are all going AWWW! but to which the scary Christian simply replied “I see”. It does NOT look good for our heros!


Then in true Sandy fashion she goes and gets out her bible (can you believe this broad? First she totally dismisses the heart warming declaration of love that would have melted frosty himself and she adds insult to injury by opening the bible!) Insted of flicking to the well worn pages of Romans One which hold the bodily imprints of many of us when we have been thown against those words by “well meaning” Christians but insted flicks to John Eight. Interesting choice though frankly I had no idea what a prostitute had to do with anything… I was ready to rush in with my superman cape if she started out with “Now Jeff see this woman doing the wrong thing, just like you are? Jesus tells her to quit it… they make a patch you know” thankfully she didn’t. She reads John 8:1-11 and stops.


1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.


But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.


9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”


11″No one, sir,” she said.

“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”


She looks at Jeff and repeats “neither do I condemn you” and stops. Meanwhile the viewers at home are on the edge of their seats. What? Thats it? The queen of long winded sermons is susinct? Who are you and what have you done with Sandy? But alas she continues. “I stressed out about meeting you you know I knew that I had no idea what I was going to say if you ever came out with something like that. Ok sure lets be friends while internally thinking you were a huge doofus isn’t quite what its cracked up to be” And yes thats right folks I’m going to take five points off the Sandy team for using the word doofus… what was she thinking!!


“But” she continues and you have to realise how big this moment is, Sandy is at her most anoying when she says “but” like “I’d like to go to your comitment ceromony but…” or “It’s sweet that your so happy but…” trst me nothing good ever follows the word “but” except in this instance. “Jesus gave us the model we should all use when relating to others” Sandy continues “He accepts this woman, he, so holy and blameless the one person who had every right to judge her accepts her THEN he tells her to live a better life. The Chruch tends to work on the oppiste principal ‘we’ll accept you if… [almost as scary as but!] but Jesus lays out his priorities, acceptance breeds the desire to live in Godliness. So Jeff I don’t condemn you, I don’t judge you, it’s ok with me if you love my father I can accept that” AWWWWW!!!


Of course she had to ruin the effect by pointing out the difference between acceptance and approval and droaning on and on about how she doesn’t expect Jeff to go away and leave his life on sin only that he may have a positive experience of the once scary, scary Christian who really, underneith the layers of fuddy duddy conservatism is a big softie. 😆 Shes just so CUTE!… yes she is…yes she is…



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 5, 2008, 09:51

Thanks Adam sooooooo cool thanks for sharing that with us lol wink Sounds like the Sandy Ive gotten to know in everyway. Im glad it went well, really, when you think about it……it did didnt it??? did I read it right????? hmmmm!!!!!!!! tell me again it went alright!!!!!!! shock lol


I enjoy watching Sandys journey on here, she is such an evolving creature, something I hope we all are, she stands her ground but is teachable, a good trait. (yes I know those “but” “like”s LOL)


Stabbed her sisters hand with a fork for that?????OMGGGGG shock lol Far out I hope I dont even in fun try and take a piece of chocolate from in front of her, mannnnn, I have pictures of “Hiiiiiyaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!! Chop!!!!” and my arm goes flying with the use of Karate lol wink



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
January 5, 2008, 18:33

In my defence I was four… 😳 And obviously a vicious child.


Lets not take Adam’s recolections too seriously ok? First because they reflect on me poorly in areas 😉 and second because he has totally abused his use of poetic licence in the name of what can only be dubbed a pathetic attempt at humour. 😆


I am pleased to note however that Adam has posted again, I think we should rise the bar here since we are all on such friendly, personal terms with each other Adam dear. Why don’t you post YOUR story insted of labouring over mine hmm? 😉


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