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Brunski
 
Joined in 2005
January 21, 2012, 22:35

Hi boys and girls,

I noticed that a few days ago we had a new poster freedomatlast he was a "friend" or rather an

acquaintance, someone I met some time ago, we crossed paths a few weeks ago, he recognised me, I didn't, he reminded me of his name (still had no idea who he was) but when he mentioned the Grace Tabernacle Christian Centre, I knew who he was. Anyway, I gave him Anthony's book to read. The first thing he asked me when he saw me was, whether I have "remained strong in the Lord and resisted the devil and my old sinful lifestyle" of course he was referring to my homosexuality … I kind of ignored the question and told him that I had a book that I would like him to read. And told him about this forum, thought it might enlighten him. But it did the opposite, he came back telling me that I needed to surrender to God and turn from my wicked ways and stand firm in the light of Satan's attacks …


I had a quick look at some of the last post's a few days ago and noticed a newbie and after reading his comments, I thought to myself this sounds familiar and wondered if my friend wasn't the one posting under the name of freedomatlast. I have since emailed him asking if he had checked out this place and in short he said he has "commenced Gods work" and feels God has led him to this forum to "tell the good news that freedom from homosexuality and all sexual perversions and abominations is possible" he has claimed in the past that he "once was" gay but now "has been set free by the power of the Holy Spirit" and his sexuality has been "restored" blah, blah, blah …

Anyway, I see that his post's have been removed and I suspect he has been blocked or deleted. But I feel a little guilty for "introducing him" this forum.


I hope his comments didn't hurt anyone, they were someone disrespectful and very much in your face, psycho Bible bashing type comments. So hopefully, they were removed before too many read them. Sorry if they did offend anyone, I will have a word to him if I see him again.


He has some issues himself, he has been programmed to believe that homosexuality is an abomination, a choice, repugnant in God's eyes and cause by demons. Anyway, I am writing too much again. Hope you are all cool with it.


God bless,


Brunski



Chris
Administrator
Joined in 2009
January 21, 2012, 22:49

Hi Brunksi,


Thanks for mentioning that, I was curious as to who his friend was that passed on Anthony's book!


He and I have been having an email exchange over the last couple of days. He has apologised for the way his post came across, and has said that his attitude in the thread was not Christ-like. He seems to now have a much better understanding of what we stand for and what we allow on our forums. I don't think he is particularly unfriendly, but rather just somewhat overzealous!


I'll likely continue the conversation with him via email rather than here on the forums.


I hope things are well in your world!



Mother Hen
 
Joined in 2011
January 22, 2012, 11:04

Hi Brunski,


As Chris said thanks for filling in the details. You are not responsible for your friends actions, you in good faith led him to F2B. He took it from there. You have come along way, able to stand firm against all his rantings, being zealous or not.


I too hope people have not taken on board anything this young man said, God loves everyone on this site just as they are. We will all come across people like this in life. But hold fast to the truth you know in your hearts. And keep plugged into this wonderful site.


That's awesome Chris you are in contact with this young man and that he see's he didn't really go about things the right way. Great work.


God Bless



Ann Maree
 
Joined in 2008
January 22, 2012, 11:17

Hi Brunski

I agree with the wise words of Mother Hen. You are doing really well.

We each have our own path to take and at f2b we aim to respect that without trying to lead anyone one way or another. I have no right to tell someone else what to do with their life. I can only direct my own life in the best way I can. And that takes a lot of hard work and introspection. And sometimes it's easier and tempting to focus on others when we should just attend to our own lives. I'm hoping your acquaintance can focus his zeal on his own life rather than trying to convert others.

Great work, Chris!

Blessings,

Ann Maree



sarab
 
Joined in 2011
January 22, 2012, 13:44

I agree with all that has been said. No need to apologise for someone else's actions Brunski – but so lovely for you to do so.

I wish your friend all the best in his journey – and like Mother Hen and Ann Maree – I think it's great Chris that you are continuing a dialogue with him.

I agree with Ann Maree too – life is complicated enough as it is – and can, as many on this site can attest to, bring its own share of pain and struggle – without jumping in to judge and attempt to change others.

I didn't take offence at his words – just felt a bit sad for his own struggle and journey.


Hope all is travelling OK for you Brunski and thanks for Chris for your part in this story too.


Sarab 🙂



Mr Summit
Chapter Leader
Joined in 2010
January 22, 2012, 15:21

It's not your fault Brunski. And besides, the moderators have handy ban-sticks if anything ever gets out of hand.


BTW, I edited your post to remove your friend's name. We at Freedom2b respect everyone's anonymity. And that means that only the poster themselves can reveal their name.



Ann Maree
 
Joined in 2008
January 22, 2012, 16:34

Thanks Mr Summit.



Brunski
 
Joined in 2005
January 23, 2012, 11:51

Thanks guys,

Im glad to know that he has been communicating with you Chris maybe you can guide him … from what you say, he seems to be more understanding. He did try to call me and later messaged me but, I was in hospital yesterday and haven't had a chance to reply. His txt indicated that he has been in contact with one of the "forum leaders" thought that was a funny way of putting it. But didn't go into any details other then to say that he has been blocked and his comments were removed and in hindsight, he can see that he was "perhaps a little to gun ho" and if he would like an opportunity to share his story as he IS and ex-gay and he KNOWS that God can set me and all gays free if they truly want it and if they are faithful enough to stand firm when the going gets tough! I have shared with him my own story in the past and things got a little heated. But that was a while back, since I gave him Anthony's book we haven't really spoken all that much.


He has invited me back a few tomes to his Church and insists that I need to be baptised in the Holy Spirit! (I thought I was) but I guess I didn't fall backwards, roll over the ground or get up out of the water screaming and praising God, so I must not be! Oh and of course, I dont speak in tongues, so I am "clearly not baptised in the spirit" If I really was, then I would like him, be able to speak in tongues and gain "direct verbal interaction with God" through the speaking of Tongues. It amazes me just what people believe sometimes.


BTW, I edited your post to remove your friend's name. We at Freedom2b respect everyone's anonymity. And that means that only the poster themselves can reveal their name.


Thanks Mr.Summit I should have known not to include my friends name even if it was just his username.


He will contact me again later tonight and we can discuss things a little more. I am interested to know what he thinks of all of this. But I have told him, that if he simply wants to "convert me" to his "truth" and show me how God can restore my sexuality, then he shouldn't bother. He is convinced that he is doing Gods work and he has been sent by God to reveal the truth to the gay community. He has sent me links to the Godhatesfags site (which for some reason I thought had been removed or something) as proof of what God thinks of gays and then suggested I seek the specialist counselling and pray/therapy healing ministry of Living Waters (apparently there is a Church in the Eastern Suburbs still running this program) not sure if Hillsong still do. Oh and in exchange for my book he has offered me a book, 2 books actually, one buy Joe Dallas and the other by Sly Rogers, oops I mean Sy Rogers. I haven't read either although, I did have a quick look at the Joe Dallas book, but it didn't take long to put it down. I will return them to him and explain why I refuse to read them


Anyway, on a different note, I am well and out of hospital just had another seizure, been stressing out again, just when I thought the whole Sponsorship thing with Tom was over or at least set aside long term, its sprung back up to torment me again! But that's a whole new story for a different time and post.


Hope you are all well,


God Bless,

Brunski



Ann Maree
 
Joined in 2008
January 23, 2012, 15:15

Hi Brunski

You sound like you're in a better place than you were previously. You seem more able to see things as they are and to draw your own conclusions. You also seem emotionally stronger so well done to you! 🙂

At the same time, I'm sorry to hear you've been unwell with seisures again. Your body is perhaps trying to tell you something, and as you elude to, stress is no doubt a trigger.

Re the sponsorship deal, I can only reiterate that it's not your job to do that. You don't need to rescue someone else. T needs to be responsible for himself while your main responsibility is yourself. The more you allow yourself to be drawn into sponsoring this other person, the more you move away from caring for you. And rescuing the other doesn't do him any favours either.

Look at why you are being drawn into this scenario. Are there other ways you can get your needs met?

Blessings,

Ann Maree



Brunski
 
Joined in 2005
January 23, 2012, 17:41

Thanks Anne Marie,

I guess I am in a better place, but still not in that place I want to be, still struggling with the whole "gay thing" my GP has referred me to see a Psychologist while my Neurologist wants me to see a Psychiatrist. Maybe I can find a combination of the two 🙂 anyway, one step at a time.

As for T and as for,


Look at why you are being drawn into this scenario. Are there other ways you can get your needs met?


There probably is another way of getting my needs met, just haven't it having said, a "little voice in my head" has just told me that Jesus can and will fulfill all my needs. Maybe I am just not trusting/relying on Him enough. That's always been a difficult statement for me, Jesus will meet all your needs, of course He meets my spiritual needs, but its the physical/sexual needs that need to be met. Can Jesus fulfill them ? My heart tells me he can, but my head and sinful nature questions if He cant or rather, struggles to understand how, He can meet my physical (namely, sexual needs). I recall my mother once telling me that when you have Jesus He "takes away" that "need for sex" and He replaces it with His love which meets any sexual need to had. Am I missing something ?


The interesting thing with T is that he did show me his passport which shows his visa having expired in May 2011. He tells me he has a bridging visa now, I questioned why that isn't stamped on his passport, but someone told me that bridging visa aren't stamped because they are temporary visa's. I have since contacted his lawyer repeatedly and he finally got back to me, telling me everything that I need to do in order to sponsor T (which I already knew) but he didn't answer my specific question which was, why he has a copy of T's visa and not T and whether he could tell me exactly when T's existing visa (assuming he has one) expires. I am yet to receive a reply. Can't help but wonder if this migration agent/lawyer is legit or even knows what he is talking about. I will contact immigration again, made an appointment to see the Immigration Advice and Rights people, but the waiting list is so long that I probably wont get to talk to anyone before June, July … anyway, sorry I'm going off track, this is a forum for people struggling with their sexuality, not a forum about sponsorship and visa's lol


Hope your well Anne Marie


Blessings,


Brunski


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