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Joined in 2007
March 26, 2008, 13:45

Hi Michele

i look forward to your book.

even though i do have a female birth certificate the laws as it stands in WA stops GLT from been welcome in any church, they have the right to throw us out.

these church also dont have to give us a room in a frefuge for any food hand outs.

so yes michele i look forward to the day that they say sorry but it might be long after we are gorn.

i drive passed churches in mt barker and signs say ALL WELCOME i know that is not true.

the women i live with was a minister in one of the churches here and was thrown out when she came out.

this still upsets her today.

she also is still very much in love with god.

she did so much after hrs work to for no pay helping the lonely and the poor . she would give them her food if she knew they had non.

but all that dose not count if you are difrent in the churches eyes.



Joined in 2008
March 26, 2008, 14:09

You are so right Leece

It really does hurt … I was a Church Elder, Treasurer, invovled with chilren’s ministries and now becuase I am different they won’t give me the time of day.

It is so wrong. The Chruches I went to have the same signs but I think they should be honest and write underneath them only if you’re not …. Sharon and I often comment on that and voice your sentiments each time.

I hope you’re wrong about us being gone when they do accept us but I must regreatfully say that I agree.

It is very sad indeed.

Joined in 2007
April 15, 2008, 09:48

Church support for gay school formals

April 15, 2008 01:36am

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Head of Anglican Church backs same-sex formals

Says he has no personal objection

Presides over school that banned same-sex formals

THE head of the Anglican Church in Australia has backed gay and lesbian students taking same-sex partners to school formals.

Anglican Archbishop Phillip Aspinall yesterday said he had no “personal objection to a school deciding to allow boys to take friends who are boys, or girls to take friends who are girls to school formals”.

His comments came after it was revealed that a prestigious Brisbane school had insisted students take a member of the opposite sex to their school formal.

Several students at Churchie – the Anglican Church Boys’ Grammar School – had wanted to escort their same-sex partners to the event in June, and approached a senior member of staff to raise the issue.

Headmaster Jonathan Hensman said, while no one had approached him personally, he would refer any requests to the school council if they did – although it was tradition for the young men to escort a member of the opposite sex to the school formal.

Despite his apparent support for the gay students, Dr Aspinall, who is president of the school’s council, said the school had a right to enforce a ban on same-sex partners if it felt the move was necessary.

“I understand that in this particular instance the school has decided that its approach is to emphasise the interaction of young men and young women and provide them with an opportunity to do that in this kind of formal setting and I have no objection to that either,” he said.

“I think that’s a reasonable and legitimate approach for a school to take.”

Yesterday former student Dale Hinds, 20, said he was forcibly outed by his peers in Year 9 but got “fantastic support” from staff and was gradually accepted by fellow students.

“In Year 9 I copped a lot of c***, in Year 10 I had to stand up for myself but by the end of Year 12 there was only one student out of 266 who gave me any grief,” Mr Hinds said.

Although he took his female best friend to his formal in 2005, Mr Hinds said it would be a huge gesture of acceptance for the school to permit same-sex partners.

“The Churchie formal is not about being gay. It’s about being treated fairly and equally and being respected,” he said.

The issue of same-sex partners at the formal has sparked massive debate throughout the wider community, with principal psychologist with the Centre for Human Potential Paul Martin arguing that many schools believed it was OK to be gay as long as you did not act in a way that reflected it.

“I’m not saying the school is no good or they’ve done a terrible thing,” he said.

“On a one-on-one level they do a great job with their students, but when they put their foot down unfortunately it just sends out a very, very powerful message that ‘Look it’s fine if you’re gay, as long as you don’t do anything about it like have a gay relationship or express how you feel in that way’.”

Mr Martin said he saw three or four clients a week who had been “extremely damaged” as a result of homophobic schoolyard bullying.

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Joined in 2006
April 15, 2008, 14:53

wow so they finall allowed it 😀

Wasnt the 100 revs apology to the “glbtiq” community at large or their apology inclusive thereof? Im sure it was. That would mean each and everyone of us here.

Joined in 2008
April 16, 2008, 00:20

Baby steps….. Small victories. Hopefully things like this will have a kind of snowball effect. I sure hope so. Nothing is going to happen unless we stand up and speak out for ourselves. Not in a harsh way, in love, but firmly.

Joined in 2007
April 16, 2008, 05:51

yes it is a small step in the right direction i hope.

in 10 yrs who knows we might have some GLBTI in charge of some our churches.


Joined in 2007
April 16, 2008, 13:09

wow so they finall allowed it 😀

That’s not actually what the article says if you read it carefully. There’s nothing in there that says the school is necessarily going to change its rules for the formal.

Joined in 2008
April 17, 2008, 05:50

At least its a positive step though. 😀 Even acknowledging an issue is a step in the right direction… 😉

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