maybe there is a reason for it????

here on the sunshine coast, the lesbians have a much better social network/scene than the gay men do

not saying there are bars etc here cos there are none

but they have a few cafes about that are lesbian run and promoted as such

and seem to just socialise better

which is the opposite to the differences in gender specifics in the teen years

there the girls are usually in smaller groups and get quite bitchy

and the guys are much more gregarious in larger groups

(or is that strictly just a straight phenomenon?)

the gay men on the coast here are very difficult to become friends with

there are usually strings attached

and i dont like too many strings cos they seem to get very tangled from what i have seen in others strings lol

but that is another story

so as for on here???

no idea

come on girls, bring it on …………… start talking LOL

come on girls, bring it on …………… start talking LOL

You should never ask a woman to start talking, you’ll regret it two hours later when she’s still talking 😆 😆

The ‘norms’ among gay men and lesbians are different and they derive from this odd combination of the typically associated gender differences between all men and women (women are better at socialising and talking, men think about sex way more etc.) and gay and lesbian gendered differences (a lot of lesbians are butch and more masculine acting or thinking than straight women and gay men often epitimise femininie attributes like, for instance, squealing 😆 ).

I think AVB is right, this combination puts gay men and lesbians even further apart than men and women generally. No one really knows why for sure because its all subjective. Maybe the question should become, how do we bridge that gap and have we really done so on F2b?

I think AVB is right, this combination puts gay men and lesbians even further apart than men and women generally. No one really knows why for sure because its all subjective. Maybe the question should become, how do we bridge that gap and have we really done so on F2b?

this has been something thats troubled me over the last 4 years of f2b. Where are our sisters…. I miss them?

Every time some come along to our meetings there are always more men…..there are made feel extremely welcome….maybe we over do it…..but we’ve never had them stay for more than a couple of meetings. Not sure why that is. Mostly the conversation is not the typical gay male type talk. We are respectful I think.

Maybe I’m trying to do the impossible.

Considering the way I feel about sex and relationships…..sometimes I wonder if possibly I’m a lesbian trapped in a gay mans body 😆 😆 😆 😆

Really I think the forum suffers from a rather ironic case of ‘you’re dammed if you do, you’re dammed if you don’t’. The trouble isn’t that the topic of the posts are male centric. They come across that way because the majority of people here are male and in giving their opinions and collaborating with one another it can become, at times, the ol’ boys club not because it was meant that way but simply by virtue of their being so few women.

This is the trouble when you meet socially and it is an open group thing. If the meetings were closed you could recurit an equal number of men and women and then shut the doors 😆 😆 but obviously that isn’t going to happen. I don’t know what the answer is but rest assured that it isn’t unusual. I can only think of a handful of places where gay men and lesbians hang out together as a collective group. Ususally in most places there is a “lesbian scene” and a “gay scene”.

Also, despite what you might see on the L word where every second person is a lesbian we are actually quite rare. Gay men outnumber us 1:2 I’d say.

I don’t know what the answer is but rest assured that it isn’t unusual. I can only think of a handful of places where gay men and lesbians hang out together as a collective group. Usually in most places there is a “lesbian scene” and a “gay scene”.

that is the conclusion I think I’ve come to Sandy. Our meetings and forum are possibly just a reflection of what happens out there in the community anyway. Trying to change or work against it is to work against nature. I think the important thing to maintain is a safe, respectful and sensitive space for everyone gay and lesbian….and our straight supporters as well.

Also, despite what you might see on the L word where every second person is a lesbian we are actually quite rare. Gay men outnumber us 1:2 I’d say.

….and thats what the stats show as well. Interesting the number correspond eeerily to the breakdown of left-handedness in society.