Wanted to come back here and thank everyone for their responses to my posts – including the responses that came by PM – they’ve all been really helpful.

There’s definitely still some work to be done on my part on setting boundaries and then also APPLYING those decisions. I seem, though, to be moving towards a much clearer picture of what I do and don’t want to do / feel okay about doing.

The ideal, of course, would be to find a nice gay Christian man that I could contemplate spending the rest of my life with. Think I found a candidate actually – now, if only he didn’t live in another city!

But in and of itself, that raises all sorts of interesting questions about whether I am just looking to imitate a heterosexual model. There’s definitely a wide range of views out there in the homosexual ‘world’ as to how similar or how different homosexual relationships are to heterosexual ones. I’m inclining towards the view that things like faithfulness and fidelity should be just as important and are not just rules that are there ‘for the sake of the children’, if you like.

Oh, and Anthony – yes I know you’re coming to Canberra. A board member has been pestering me to keep my diary free!

I think its great when we finally realise……deep down in our hearts……. what is the right thing to do (not what others tell is the right thing to do)………..and have the strength to live but that.

It takes some time to sort it all out……in the meantime I dont believe we go to hell for making a mistake…….we get so intense about that sometimes.

I agree about the hell thing, its more about intimidation and forcing people into strict moral guidelines through fear and coersion than anything.

God sees our hearts and motives for doing things so I don’t think a genuinly innocent mistake is going to illicit much more than a shurg from God. If we all went to hell for our mistakes heaven would be empty.

I agree about the hell thing, its more about intimidation and forcing people into strict moral guidelines through fear and coersion than anything.

God sees our hearts and motives for doing things so I don’t think a genuinly innocent mistake is going to illicit much more than a shurg from God. If we all went to hell for our mistakes heaven would be empty.

The fear of hell was what kept me coming out for so long. I was sure that if I lived as a gay guy I would go to hell, and believed this even a long time after coming out.

First of all, Comrade Liberation, I would just like to ask you how many opinions you have changed with your blunt, militant attitude? This is not to criticise you or judge you, but simply to ask a question that you should probably have asked yourself already.

As a fairly basic, straightforward rule, you cannot change the mind of another person through intimidation or force. It just doesn’t work.

Napoleon Bonaparte once said:

“Alexander, Caesar, Charlemagne, and myself founded empires; but what foundation did we rest the creations of our genius? Upon force. Jesus Christ founded an empire upon love; and at this hour millions of men would die for Him.”

In the end, Rob, I would wager anything in my possession that if you were to have a less harsh attitude towards anti-gay believers, and even take a leaf out of Jesus’ book and try to love them once in a while, then you would find people much more amenable to your opinions…

Just a suggestion.

Anyway, that’s not supposed to be the point…

Orfeo, although I’m not actually out of the closet, I found the opposite to be true when I accepted my sexuality. When I finally stopped trying to suppress it, my libido almost instantly fell over, twitched a few times, and then lay still – hasn’t moved since, which is probably for the better 🙂 .