Freedom 2 b[e] Target Market

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Ann Maree
Joined in 2008
October 25, 2009, 13:32

Hi Tony

Yes, you’re right – a triple whammy. And well put about the issues compounding each other.

They’ve all been extremely difficult things to process on their own but collectively the layers and intensity have mounted up too. And all events have sent me into major spiritual crises where I’ve had to question my faith and the supports (or lack thereof) around me. On the positive side however, I’ve certainly become good at thoroughly examining ideas and rebuilding on more solid foundations. And every experience of loss and reconstruction has assisted with the next crisis.

The divorce issue was helped by some bible studies I did years before where I had to write an argument about divorce, using as many scriptures from the bible as possible. I was surprised to learn that there were as many passages permitting divorce as against it. My conclusion was a gracious one, knowing that God’s compassion would always be the overriding force and that divorce would therefore be permissible in some cases. It seemed to me that God hated the pain of divorce rather than judging the people involved from a legalistic viewpoint. I felt God’s presence very much at this time, and little did I know that both the memory of this and my words would be a great comfort when I later found myself going through my own divorce.

I’m aware that my previous experiences of spiritual abuse contribute significantly to my being very sensitive to any church communications that are: not clear, leading statements or conflicting messages. They might be very subtle but that can be the most damaging kind of manipulation because it slips under most peoples’ radars. On the negative side, being hypervigilant is tiring and may cause me to read into messages that may not be intended or present, but then this level of alertness might just protect me against being abused again.

Whatever the case, I just want to keep learning and moving forward.

Thanks for your feedback and for making me think about this more.

Ann Maree

Anthony Venn-Brown
Joined in 2005
October 25, 2009, 17:40

the more I’ve worked with people in these areas the more obvious the compounding has become. It is quite logical thought when you think about it. Its like layers…..and roots grow between the layers.

He is what presented to a national GLBT health conference a couple of years ago.

1. Family – whether this is an issue or not depends on your upbringing.

2. Sexuality – this depends on your family, cultural/social construct as well as the geographic area you live in. It’s much easier for a young person to resolve this in the eastern suburbs of Sydney than a small rural town where the expectation is that you will get married and have a family like everyone else. ‘There are no gays in our village and if they tried to come in then we’d kill them.’ Think Matthew Sheppard.

3. Christian belief system – if you are a traditional Christian then your faith and beliefs will be in conflict with sexuality.

4. Sexual abuse – see how the issues are compounding and becoming more complex.

5. HIV+ status – and so a matrix of issues is created. Just like a drainpipe clogged up with a matted root system that is extremely difficult to disentangle.

I’ve observed that males who get stuck and find resolution extremely difficult are those who have 3. 4. and 5.

Joined in 2009
December 28, 2009, 23:05

This is for….. desparate4truth

Amen my friend. I returned to the church 3 years ago after more years than I want to remember. I have stood out like a light that wont be hidden. Have so far been accepted but I am sure there are those that are legalism bound.

The scriptures do say Let your light so shine. By this I mean :God is love. The Ten Commandment boil down to Love the Lord God with all your heart and Love your neighbour as your self.Man tries to get us to think because of our orientation we cant love ourselves so how can we love our brother.Lord teach me to Love.When men mock me because of my ways .Let me love. When men spit on me because they dont understand. Let me love.When they despise me let me open not my mouth. Let me love. Jesus did that. God bless you desparate4truth.

Joined in 2008
January 26, 2010, 13:51

Hi Anthony, I was thinking about our target market the other day, and about one group of people in particular that we currently don’t cater for: LGBT people who have no religious affiliations and have unresolved issues, but may be searching for spiritual answers and/or connections with other LGBT folk. Bearing in mind that we are not a christian organisation as such, do you know if this group’s needs are being met elsewhere?

Ann Maree
Joined in 2008
January 27, 2010, 18:35

Yeah, good point mobileguy. I also think it could be helpful to identify a target group for those who have come from cults and include some related book titles and organisations in the Resources section. I think in many cases the needs of ex cult members are quite different to those who left the church under other circumstances.

Joined in 2009
January 28, 2010, 00:01

Very good points Ann Maree and mobileguy its so essential to have these targets addressed

Anthony Venn-Brown
Joined in 2005
January 28, 2010, 22:25

in my nearly 20 years in the community now I have come across so many spiritual LGBT people….in fact i was really surprised just how many as I guess I still had the old church conditioning that they were a godless lot….hehe.

they have found there own spirituality through reading, attending workshops and seminars, gone on retreats…..or just finding there own path.

I don’t think its our role is to pro-actively foster a spiritual path for LGBT people…..they seem to be finding it anyway……and if we did…it would be seen as evangelising……and against our charter.

I have noticed that our chapter meetings naturally provide a space for people to explore spiritualities……I like that.

Joined in 2010
March 4, 2010, 18:28


Ann Maree
Joined in 2008
March 7, 2010, 21:44

Hi buynowpaylater

Welcome to the site. It would be great to hear something of your journey. Feel free to share your story in the Telling Our Stories section if you like.


Ann Maree

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