Hmmm animal kills – why? For two things… to protect themselves and for food.
You missed the point. I was comparing animals killing each other to people killing each other not animals. I used this example to show that just because something appears in nature doesn’t make it ok for us.
I only have to look at animals and look at their nuturing and see alot of them nuturing the same sex…. then I see some of God’s creation which are both male and female and reproduce itself.
I agree we can see a lot of God’s character in nature but you can’t apply it to everything you see. Personally, I wouldn’t say poisonous spiders and man eating sharks would be part of God’s character. Stuff like that only came about after sin entered the world, which is pretty obvious given that before sin all animals were plant eaters. A lot of animals these days have teeth built for eating meat not plants so there had to be a change somewhere. My belief is this occurred when God cursed the earth.
Bruce, I have been looking in my bible where God actually said go out and kill the homosexuals. huh, I haven’t found it. Can you give me the reference to that? Smile
I was referring to the law in Leviticus 20:13 (and I’m not suggesting we still have to obey this law) – “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”” This refers to homosexual acts not thinking you are attracted to the same sex. Read further and I’ll explain this a bit more.
God doesnt change his mind??????? Hmmmmm!! First the Jews are told they cant eat shellfish and certain animals in the old covenant and next thing you know in the new covenant, Peter is shown that he can eat those things. God changed his mind. New covenant, based on the original promise to Abraham of righteousness by faith.
If you think about it, he really didn’t. It’s only us that change, not God. Wherever it appears that God changed his mind, He is only accommodating for us. His thoughts and plan never change because he is beyond time. Wherever God is shown as changing his mind are human attempts to explain His actions.
Hi Bruce…….so when is a homosexual sex act one of love and one of lust?
It depends what kind of love you’re talking about. The sexual kind always has to be lust because it’s outside of marriage. The Bible only defines marriage as being between a man and woman. This has been the case since Genesis. Genesis 2:24 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh”. I don’t see “united to his wife or husband” there.
When a heterosexual married couple engage in anal sex is that okay?
Yes, everything is OK within marriage. Hebrews 13:4 “Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled”
what sexual acts between two women who live in a monogamous relationship are allowed.
I think allowed is the wrong word. God doesn’t force us to do anything, but I think any sexual act between two women is a sin.
after they have realised that homosexuality is a sexual orientation and therefore in and of itself not a sin.
Do you consider homosexual acts a sin? Without sexual acts or lust I really don’t see how it can be seen as homosexuality. I use the word lust because marriage is only between a man and a woman, and nowhere in the Bible does it indicate otherwise.
Most dictionaries will describe homosexuality (the noun) as someone who practices it. The adjective would not be considered a sin because there’s nothing active about it, only that there’s an attraction or a temptation. But to call yourself A homosexual (noun) would say that you practice it. If you just call yourself homosexual (the adjective, not A homosexual) then I can see why you would say that’s not a sin. I could think I’m a pianist because I like the piano but until I play it it doesn’t make me one. All it makes me is someone who likes pianos (an adjective).
1. sexually attracted to members of your own sex
1. someone who practices homosexuality; having a sexual attraction to persons of the same sex
As you can see, the adjective is not sinful because it’s not active but a temptation. I’m attracted to women but that doesn’t make me an adulterer. If it goes beyond temptation then that’s where it becomes active and a sin. This begs the question, why would you want to accept yourself as homosexual (adjective) if it’s sinful to become one (noun)? All it would do is open yourself up to temptation and a life of struggles.