Hi all… wow this is great reading about how F2b has been an instrument of sharing and thinking about where we were before and after…. I think it adds more of clarity that we all seem to get as we unravel our thoughts and beliefs… and reading into what others have said and some of our minds have been been blown to bits too with answers. I know that we do all the working out bits on F2b feeling safe to say what we are thinking. I never thought this was a AVB site… I thought that Anthony was skilled in adding comments to move things along… adding things to challenge us to think about what we say.

A few post back I mentioned

Oh no Anthony, that’s just so terrible what will they think? How will they cope? We need a special house for them to get all the support they need… where straight people go and that place is earmarked only to employ GLBT people Gosh we can’t have those ummmm lovely happy people rolling out as you know ummm “gay”. The world will never be the same again.

AND amen to that… I do believe we do have a roll to play in the christian community… mine is to plead with God as to letting me be an instrument of catching others who are falling and need reassurance that our heavenly father never hated them for being different.

I did that in jest because we all been throught some heavy experiences and I have seen so many horrible cases… and to jest the regular people in seeing things from our perspective.

It was ok for us to be pushed through the wringers to feel confused, upset, suicidial, scared, angry, fearful and its ok for those who are not experiencing what we feel to condemn us, to speak ill of us, to spread lies and homophobia and add more stress on us by confronting us and questioning us like they were in the right… then I realised the question…” how were they to know any better?”, they had no resources to go by and only mimic what their superiors have said, and the body of Christian shakers and movers – they control and encourage homophobic actions … this is why we believed we were depraved evil beings. Yet, we were none of those… and yet we believed it… how powerful are the words of mankind… F2b helped break that chain of untruths that locks our mind and thoughts into very damaging patterns – that could have been mental health issues.

I hope this site will continue to be just that for all of us to be able to read and think and discuss issues. I thank the bravest group of people who got into this site, put so much energy to make a dream come true and for that… we are coming together to discuss the very thing that has us entrapped – I seriously believe that its good remedity and minimise mental health issues for us and those in the future.

Hmmmm

Craig.

I would agree with that comment Anthony about sometimes only realising later the impact of the conflict we encounter regarding our faith and sexuality. What amazes me is that the church teaches us that confusion comes from the devil and yet that is what it is dishing out at us in regards to our faith just because we are gay/lesbian. There are many beautiful christians around, many many but its a shame the pharisees and saducees are also amongst them. Jesus would never have treated us like the church treats us today. I wonder how well the church at large from leadership level knows Jesus at all if they cant act and behave with the same grace and love that he did and does.

lol Gees I wouldnt want to know LOL……..You are right there is a lot of fear and its sad that people live under any sort of fear. Its not a great analogy but it reminds me of when an animal is afraid or hurt, you could have all the best intentions in the world to help it but because it doesnt know you or isnt familiar with you, it doesnt think twice about attacking you or even killing you.

Proverbs sums it up well in human terms “people perish due to lack of knowledge” and it doesnt necessarily mean the ones that are unknowledgable, the people perishing could be the ones perishing at the hands of those who are ignorant. It goes both ways, be ignorant and you perish or be ignorant and you cause many to perish.

welcome liberation rob….I’ll have to check out and see if you have posted your story so i know more about you.

The online community is really important isn’t it. about 300 people now. may of them lurkers who come in and read our discussions and it helps them on their journey.

How did you you find us…….as i know this is key to reaching others who would benefit.

Keep up the interceeding Craig, if not for the prayer warriors we wouldnt have as much headway as we do and many lives are covered. The prayer of a righteous man does much D How true!!

Im glad you dont fit into the stereotype some people who know that you are gay assume you would be, I think that is the very mould we need to break sometimes and have people see that we are very ordinary, like anybody else and that our personal lives are like anybody elses whether we be single or partenered. Ive used the same line as you Craig too in saying “youre not my type” LOL ) it seems to break the ice.

( I hope my comment about “stereotype” isnt taken to mean that there is anything wrong with stereotypes, we usually all get classed as being the same but we know how different we all are and no one homosexual is the same as the other, though in some ways some of us have similarities that give us away, again nothing wrong with that)