A person’s sexual orientation can be determined medically. Though it’s a bit personal, doctors place a wire ring on a person’s private parts and show them about 1000 pictures of men and 1000 pictures of women over about 10 days.

There is not a single thing anyone can do to influence the outcome of those body temperature tests.

If anyone claims to be “healed” from gay to straight, they need to have done three things.

1. Take those tests to prove they were gay in the first place.

2. Go out and get “healed”

3. Take those tests again several times over the next few years and remain totally silent.

Then let the doctors say if their sexual orientation has been changed.

When those tests were done on me, the needle on doctor’smachine never recorded a single thing when I saw all those pictures of nude women. I was born gay. It is a proven fact.

The doctor told me that over all the years they had done those tests, while many who had wanted to change their behaviour had done so, NOT ONE had changed their sexual orientation fom gay to straight.

The pressure to lie from the church is absolutely enormous and it can do incredible damage.

I have been married to my wife for 40 years this year, and no my sexual orientation has NOT changed from gay to straight. I was never sick in the first place and no, I didn’t need to be healed.

I am gay and I am proud of it. I am really glad God created me gay.

(I really feel for all those heterosexuals though. But I realize it was the way they were born and that they can’t help it !)

Hi Meg

In all the discussions I have been involved with, only men were mentioned, so I don’t really know to be honest. It is an interesting concept.

My point in raising the issue is to say that the results of those tests show that change of a person’s sexual orientation does not happen. It can do a lot of damage to people when Exodus and others claim that it can.

One of the sadest cases I have known recently is that of Craig Hoyle who has posted here, who was prescribed a drug by a doctor from his church in an attempt to chemically castrate him to cure him of his homosexuality. When it didn’t work, his Christian??? parents put him out of their home and changed the locks, telling him they never wanted to see him ever again.

And that is Christianity? Really? in 2010??

We have supported Craig and we need to continue to do that as best we can. His story was on TV.

Sy Rogers would be a very interesting guy to meet. Thanks AVB for your comments. If I did meet him, I would be willing to listen and very slow to make any judgements.

David,

I really find it very interesting that all of the effort to change people’s sexual orientation tends to centre more around men, and from my reading on the subject, this has been the case for a very long time. Even the Bible doesn’t seem to censure lesbians as hotly as it seems to censure male homosexuals (assuming that one believes the Bible censures homosexuals at all, which I don’t)

It’s like the world/society views male homosexuality as far worse than lesbianism, and yes, I knew the point you were making was that sexual orientation can’t be changed. I was just curious to know if the same was said of women or even if the same studies had been done on women.

I see that Sy Rogers is speaking again this weekend from Friday til Sunday at Kings Christian Church at Buderim as a part of their “sex in the City” weekend seminar.

I’m concerned by this,especially as it doesn’t seem clear just what Sy’s message is these days.

I have no problem with someone claiming he is healed from homosexuality, until he starts to claim that the same can happen for everyone who is gay.

I thought we had someone on the forums who attends Kings. 🙂

I didn’t mean to give any offence or to be disrespectful. I was just wondering.