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What Happened to the Call?

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magsdee
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Joined in 2006
November 7, 2007, 11:34

That is just so exciting Maggie B. D Far out!!!!!!

Amazing where God takes us when we just say ok wherever, whenever, however and no matter how big or small it all makes a difference D


November 30, 2007, 08:03

I don’t believe in a personal call. I think a lot of people think a personal desire to do something equates to a call. I don’t think it does. I think the only thing we are called to do is live lives of honesty and integrity.



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
November 30, 2007, 10:41

I feel that every human being has a purpose in life…..that is ………to leave this planet a better place for us having spent time here.


Some though have specific gifts and talents to be effective in particular areas. They may or may not see that as a calling. I feel I know what that is for me……in fact i have no doubt of that.


i think most of you would agree with me…..its a plain as the nose on my face…….. 😆 😆 😆



Myfanwe
 
Joined in 2007
November 30, 2007, 11:47

I feel that every human being has a purpose in life…..that is ………to leave this planet a better place for us having spent time here.


Some though have specific gifts and talents to be effective in particular areas. They may or may not see that as a calling. I feel I know what that is for me……in fact i have no doubt of that.


i think most of you would agree with me…..its a plain as the nose on my face…….. 😆 😆 😆


hmmm now let me think about that for a minute… 😆 😆 😀



magsdee
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Joined in 2006
November 30, 2007, 12:16

Yes that it is lol



Myfanwe
 
Joined in 2007
November 30, 2007, 13:27

I just dug out an old journal of mine, that dates back to 1995…Oh my Goodness!


It’s so funny and also a little cringe-worthy reading back over my life back when I was so immersed in the AOG and some of the things I wrote.


Heavens to Betsy, if the me of yesterday met the me of today we’d get into a debate in nothing flat! 😆 😆 😆


Blessings,



johnrobert
 
Joined in 2009
March 10, 2009, 14:01

Oh, magzdragon, that’s wonderful…. I am such in awe because of what you’ve posted…. if you were wondering if the bullets would fly…. well one of them has, my own heart!


‘What happened to the call?’ Oh, indeed!


Why is it that when we ask God to be delivered of something, it always means we give up our sexuality – or become a priest.


I’ve done that so many times now – and He rescued me each time.


Now I feel my calling is this – to help other Gays find their place.


I don’t think the Bible is out against homosexuality, I blame the translations of the Bible for creating a massive mess.


I won’t go into it let lest I be shot down, but I believe the important message of the Bible is LOVE. Without any doubt.


When we start denying THAT, that’s when we run into all sorts of problems, psychoses, depression, breakdowns and so on.


It’s that simple.


‘What happened to the calling?’. Indeed.


When I was broken-hearted at 27, I came to God and said ‘If you deliver me from this I’ll become a Priest’, and I also said ‘I won’t love anyone (including males) that I haven’t loved before’.


Well God accepted me on that.


And the next time I met my Italian lover in Rome, we had an impassioned evening, hugging, kissing and embracing. It was pure heaven. And it was all sanctioned.


But after a few years (without giving all of the details), I kept asking – whatever happened to the calling to become a Priest?


Is it still there?


What would my particular calling be?


To preach to the broken hearted, the sexually abused, the gays, confused and straights; to bind up their wounds, to anoint and heal them with oil.


I feel so much more empowered because of your message magzdragon, I appeal to you, please follow your calling – the desert is a very dry place, and many cannot survive too long, they simply give up on life – keep your passion fuelled.


Look at David and Jonothan’s love for each other – the King’s son and the future King of Israel – hugging, kissing, crying in each other’s arms, ‘exceeding’ (what ever that means), and even the equivalent of a same-sex civil union – a sworn love pact between the two of them, with all of their love explicitly explained in the Holy (emphasis) Bible.


No sodomy though. It’s only sodomy that was explicitly banned in the Bible, one specific homosexual act – not homosexuality as an orientation or in general.


And even Leviticus does NOT say “A man shall not sleep with a man”.


It says “A man shall not sleep with a man in the way he sleeps with a woman”. That to me directly refers to pegs’n’holes – once again, sodomy.


In fact, I think we would all be a lot healthier if we removed every word ‘homosexual’ in the Bible and replaced it with ‘sodomite’ – and I think you’ll see why David and Jonothan got the blessing whilst it was still a homosexual relationship – it wasn’t a sodomite relationship.


I for one have never agreed to sodomy, the anal chamber was I believe made for but one purpose – and not inserting things. Whilst I have every empathy for AIDS sufferers, anal sex is sick, and perverts natural laws.


Can I still be considered to be a homosexual?



johnrobert
 
Joined in 2009
March 10, 2009, 14:31

I think the challenge as a Gay Christian is not to render the theology irrelevant, but to pick away at the prevailing thought that has accumulated on the source, sedimentary fashion, to the extent that the original message is obscured.


I now think the homosexuality is banned thing as a religious precept is pure highway robbery, and a conspiracy.


When did the word ‘homosexuality’ replace the word ‘sodomy’?


Love between males was never forbidden, like love between females.


I enrages me when the essential precepts are forgotten. The Bible only condemns particular acts, and it never said that kissing, hugging, even rubbing up against each other (or even rubbing oneself for that matter), were sins.


I just wish they would get back to the original sins, and release a version of the Bible where the word ‘homosexual’ does not exist, only ‘sodomite’, (not for my own purposes though), but in the name of Biblical accuracy.


Homosexuality MAY have become a byword for sodomy, and many people may think of ‘gay sex’ as anal sex, and even many renowned sex researchers may believe that anal sex is the true sign of homosexual behaviour (the Kinsey Report on Male Sexuality most notedly), but to use the word ‘homosexual’ to replace the word ‘sodomite’ is PURE TRANSGRESSION!


Lets get our words straight and our terminology precise before furthering the debate.


Homosexuality does not equal sodomy – it’s that simple!


It’s time to get a new revision of the Holy Bible! And quick smart!



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 10, 2009, 14:36

One doesnt need to have anal sex to be considered homosexual, it doesnt define male homosexuality. The fact that you fall in love with men and not women and you wish to be intimate with a man on a physical level and not a woman is what makes you Gay and vice versa lesbian or bi if you can feel the same for both equally. 😉


We all have our beliefs and likes/dislikes regarding sex and I respect people for their privacy in how thats acted out and glad Freedom 2b is a place where utter respect is practiced toward one another as well as being sensitive not to offend others by our own beliefs and being sensitive how we express that. 😀



johnrobert
 
Joined in 2009
March 10, 2009, 15:57

This is one reason why I don’t want to come out, I am constantly misconstrued for what I don’t believe in.


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