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magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 3, 2007, 17:44

yeh, I agree, we do need to get our name out there to help others who are where we were once. How do I get us known to other christian groups? My mind is ticking over but am unsure what to do or more the case, how to go about it………Local classifieds???????? Other churches advertise…..hmmmm brain is in overdrive but will pray for favour and a way 8)



Dash
 
Joined in 2006
January 6, 2007, 12:35

Hey Magsdee!


Lovely to have you onboard at freedom 🙂 I’m so glad that you are finding food for thought in the forums.


It’s always dificult to find peace when there are so many voices all around telling you how it should be. I suppose that’s the good thing about freedom2b, we don’t claim to have all the answers, but we’re confident that God does, and besides, if God didn’t want to treat us individually he wouldn’t have created us as individuals!


Hope that this site helps you on the way to finding peace.


Dash



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 6, 2007, 16:46

Hi Dash,


Thankyou ) Yes it has been wonderful and freeing in so many ways finding this site, I am spreading the good word as best as I can.

I found some interesting things in my study of the greek language and boy oh boy have there been some mistranslations. Sad really, but not unusual, not the first time it has happened in church history. Sad to see needless persecution being placed on anyone, we are all trully welcome to be in fellowship with God and live as HE created us, whether that be homosexual or heterosexual in loving unions. If only we could all have ears to hear, “I love you” as you are right now. How much better, even if by a little, would life be.



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
January 6, 2007, 22:36

I suppose that’s the good thing about freedom2b, we don’t claim to have all the answers, but we’re confident that God does, and besides, if God didn’t want to treat us individually he wouldn’t have created us as individuals!


Hope that this site helps you on the way to finding peace.


Dash


Preach it Brother 😆



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 8, 2007, 01:47

Thanks Dash, of late I have been experiencing a great peace and understanding of who I am and with that I feel at ease with my sexuality.

By no means do I want my sexuality to define who I am, but rather I am finding that by no longer repressing my orientation I can become the person God created me to be in Christ Jesus in full. D



Dash
 
Joined in 2006
January 8, 2007, 11:45

By no means do I want my sexuality to define who I am, but rather I am finding that by no longer repressing my orientation I can become the person God created me to be in Christ Jesus in full. 😀


I know what you mean. You can celebrate who you are without it consuming and/or influencing everything you do. I think peace comes with a balance of life. The last thing I wanted was to come out and then wear a big sign that said “I’m queer and I’m here!” . . . . not that there’s anything wrong with that. 😉



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
January 8, 2007, 12:14

By no means do I want my sexuality to define who I am, but rather I am finding that by no longer repressing my orientation I can become the person God created me to be in Christ Jesus in full. 😀


I know what you mean. You can celebrate who you are without it consuming and/or influencing everything you do. I think peace comes with a balance of life. The last thing I wanted was to come out and then wear a big sign that said “I’m queer and I’m here!” . . . . not that there’s anything wrong with that. 😉


I think that gay pride exists and is real for many people becuse gay shame exists. We have hidden in fear and shame for so long believing something was wrong with us or fearing we would be rejected so when the fear goes and you realise that you are normal then we often come bursting out of the closet with the new freedom.


in the end though…….its who i am as a person that is important not what gender i’m attracted to.



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 8, 2007, 15:07

“Im queer and Im here ” thats cute Dash………….I remember chanting that on oxford street before oops many moons ago lol


You are right Anthony, the shame and rejection you get for being gay/lesbian sure threw everyone into a place where we HAD to pull together and stick together. No wonder “pride” came about. Its terrible to think that anyone would have to feel they NEED to prove they are acceptable. Yet we had to.


Its not who God is, we havent any need to prove ourselves to Him at all, as far as he was concerned WE ALL missed it……..Hence Jesus. I never once read anywhere in the bible that ” only straight, long haired women, short haired men who wear clothes from Big W(not that theres anything wrong with that D ), and listen to Daryl Somers sing and watch Hour of Power are the only ones acceptable to God” roll


But in saying, that we all missed it, how much were we and are we worth that God would sacrifice his own son, just to PROVE it to “US” that we are wanted by him. He is “God” and yet wanting to PROVE himself to US!!!!! That amazes me. And the fact is ‘He did” through Jesus and Jesus judges no-one, only the super religious stuck on the letter of the Law. A lot of the church just needs to catch on. We are ALL saved by GRACE.



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
January 8, 2007, 15:55

only straight, long haired women, short haired men who wear clothes from Big W(not that theres anything wrong with that 😀 ), and listen to Daryl Somers sing and watch Hour of Power are the only ones acceptable to God” 🙄


LMAO! 😆



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 11, 2007, 12:11

Hi, Just an update on what has happened which is very exciting.


A couple of days ago, I downloaded the short film “loving annabelle”.

Its a story about a student who falls for her teacher and vice versa and their short journey. (its worth watching the dvd to the end since it has an alternative to bits of the film plus some beautiful still shots) I loved it.


Anyhow the best part about it was that it dealt with a woman who was dealing with her supressed orientation and broken heart who gets undone by a senior student in her class. So hence, i related to her a lot as well as the students character.

Well what i got from it was that i finally let out all this emotion that was pent up for ages, I had been surpressing so much and been afraid of so much. I now know for certain that it IS what i want, and that is to feel comfortable being in love with a woman again and being in a relationship. The condemnation in wanting that has gone.


I also had a major block removed (via a great older friend) that I had with God regarding him and my sexuality and the afterlife. What I was taught about 14yrs ago, was that although Jesus may love me in my lesbian state or in a defacto relationship (unmarried ceremonially gay or straight)

that when I die, he will love me but lovingly he will have to escort me to hell for choosing to live in a sexual relationship outside of marriage or otherwise…..

Yep, you heard it right, what a big fat lie!!!!!!! x

The preacher was quoting from revelation (out of context completely)

This is the passage

Re 717 –

for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters. And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”


The preacher said that the tears wiped, will be the tears from Jesus eyes because he had to escort some people to hell………..HOW could he get that misleading revelation out of the scripture above is beyond me. He has completely misquoted the meaning of it.


Anyhow, since because of all of the above happening, I have had another major Breakthrough with my MS.

My healing has sped up again. The hypersensitive muscular responce i get has toned right down and my legs are responding heaps better. I just keep getting better and better. )


This to me is plenty of proof that God is not against my sexual orientation.

The more I am accepting and living as I was made to be the better I am becoming. I can confidently say that the emotional issues that i have had in my life had certainly contributed to my condition. I have learnt enough about MS to understand the bodily responce to certain stress factors.

If you internalise certain things enough and repress them, they will try and come out some way or another, and sometimes that can be either a sickness or a disease, their is stacks of evidence to prove that it happens.


Well thats it for the time being……..I am very excited D


Things are usually better than what they seem……too true


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