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justincrawford
 
Joined in 2008
April 6, 2008, 23:02

Well I have to say it is really nice to finally find a forum like this. Gay Christians don’t seem to exist in Scotland and those that do ghettoise themselves away from other Christians, but having been through what we all have been through it is understandable I suppose.


So here’s my story. Since I was born I have been brought up attending a fundamental Evangelical church. Like many of the stories I’ve read, I was brought up being taught that homosexuality was evil, sinful and a disgrace to God. When I was 13 I started to realise that I was attracted to boys and not girls, and this freaked me out as I knew/believed I was destined for The Big Fiery Furnace when I died. I went through the Holy Waters of Full Immersion Baptism when I was 15 believing that I would come out a new, clean, ‘straight’ Christian but obviously that didn’t work.


From there what followed was 7 years of mental torture. I left the family church and attended a Pentecostal/Charismatic church in the next town over and went through a range of Christian practices including exorcism, anointing with oil, healing and demons being cast out of me – all in an attempt to cure me of my homosexuality. Looking back on this period of my life now all i can ever remember is God telling me that he loved me, He never seemed to comment on my homosexuality. Therefore after seven years of that I stopped going to church altogether. I was fed up of Christians judging me and basically rating me as the world’s second worse sinner, a child abuser being the first!


From then on I stopped attending church and started to explore this aspect of myself that I had been trying so hard to get rid of. It was a truly cathartic experience, and I can now happily say that i’ve accepted my homosexuality and i like it. Although saying that it is not without its problems, the grass is NOT greener on the other side. I feel that being brought up in a Christian family has left me with morals and values, which I am proud of, but cause difficulties.


Trying to find a man in Glasgow who understands what I’ve been through and will take the time to get to know me and be patient with me is really difficult. I don’t like the gay scene at all – it is full of men wanting only one thing and that’s not who i am. There are aspects of gay sex that freak me out and I don’t even know if i will ever be able to do them, my past two relationships fell apart for that very reason.


So that is just a BRIEF summary of my story, if i was to go in detail and everything I would be typing for hours and this would go WAY over a thousand words hahaha!


My deepest, darkest more kept secret is that I am truly PETRIFIED of dying alone, and in some wee recess in the back of mind (which i KNOW is internalised homophobia) is telling me that it is God punishing me for being gay! And I KNOW that God wouldn’t do that and it’s not in his nature to do that, but i can’t help feeling the way I feel.


Hope this helps someone realise that they aren’t the only one!


Much Love to You All


Justin

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magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
April 7, 2008, 08:41

Hi Justin and welcome to F2B 😀 Its awesome having a Scot on here from the homeland 😉


No way is God punishing you for anything. It isnt always easy finding the right person for us, having gone through a few r’ships in the last 20yrs(since I was 19 with a 7yr celibate period in between) I have only recently found the most amazing partner in every way. Sounds almost daunting doesnt it 😆 sorry!!! Im not saying it will take you 20yrs LOL 😆 but they are out there.



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
April 7, 2008, 09:07

Brief is okay Justin…….more people read the shrot story instead of the long one. thats why we suggest no more than a 1000 words.


Welcome to our first Scottish person on the forum (as far as I know)……its great to have you with us. after reading your story i think you are going to find much that you relate to in my book. it will be like reading your own story. I think you’ll find some answers to some questions as well.


there is a big difference between the gay scene and the gay community. I work as a coach and often have clients who are trying to establish friendships in their new gay world. I always suggest that they volunteer for one of the gay community organisations. there are several benefits from that. One is that you usually meet quality people who are motivated to give back and want to make a difference. this is very different to meeting gay men in a bar. In those situations they sexual agenda is much lower on the list.


I’ve found that I can live a moral life as a gay man. I often say to people ‘my morality is a choice but my sexual orientation however isn’t.


I know what you mean about thinking that God might be punishing you because you are gay. I had the same thing. My life as a married man, father and preacher on the whole was pretty good. When I came out it seemed to be one disaster after another. I realise now of course this was not the judgement of god but lots of stuff that I had to work through personally from my past to find wholeness and healing. Nowadays I love being who I am.


After you’ve finished reading my book. I suggest you read “finding the boyfriend within”

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0743225309/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top


some of the reviews are scathing but I loved it. You’ll find my review on page 4.


looking forward to hearing more from you.



justincrawford
 
Joined in 2008
April 7, 2008, 18:47

Thanks for the quick responses! Yeah I’ve found that through my experiences on the Glasgow gay scene have really left me feeling conflicted. Churches haven’t accepted me when I came out, and when I look at the gay scene I don’t fit in there either as Im not one of these guys who will just go home with any random guy.


I have this very idealised view of who my ‘life partner’ would be, but the notion of spending YEARS on my own is incredibly daunting. I don’t like my own company and would describe myself as a people person (that’s why I work with children). I feel that God has placed this tremendous amount of love within me, all I’m looking for is someone to share and express that love with.


I sound certifiably insane now lol so I should probably go! 😆


Thanks again!


Much Love


Justin

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magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
April 7, 2008, 18:52

You sound like a sweety 😉 Im positive there is that special guy for you soon.



justincrawford
 
Joined in 2008
April 7, 2008, 19:16

hahaahahahahaha am I really that obvious!!! hahahahaha


I guess that I expected everything to be great once I came out but really there is just a WHOLE BUNCH of different issues that you need to battle with. I’m glad I came out, I love the sense of peace that it brings not having to hide anymore, but it’s just hard being a gay guy with morals hahahahaha would be easier if I didn’t have any – but then I wouldn’t be being the person that I am so…that wouldn’t be right.


Just need to find another cute gay guy with morals hahahaha


Justin

xxx



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
April 7, 2008, 19:23

You, obvious? 😯 nahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! 😉


It is very liberating to be open yes and less stressful, in yourself anyhow.

I do think it takes a lot of courage to stand by what you believe in, when everyone else hassles you for it but it makes you a stronger person. I love the feeling of having boundaries 8)



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
April 7, 2008, 20:00

living an authentic open and honest life is the most liberating feeling. Especially when you contrast with the life of secrecy, fear and shame many of us have previously known Justin.


I had no idea how wonderful it would be. Someone should have told me that in my teens instead of waiting to discover it in my 40’s. At least now we can let the younger generation know that it is possible.



justincrawford
 
Joined in 2008
April 7, 2008, 20:11

I know when i read other stories about men coming out in their 40s and 50s i can’t imagine how they had the strength and courage to do that! I mean I only came out a year and half ago, and I was 22! Then I hear about kids coming out at 12/13 years old! I guess its everyone’s own personal journey


AVB just received my copy of the book this morning – you were right that was fast! Will be starting it in earnest this afternoon – its 11:10am over here! lol


Much Love to All


Justin

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Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
April 7, 2008, 21:55

i had an email from a guy who came out at 63, married with kids and grandkids, after reading my book. One would wonder why?


but as i say. Its better to live one day on this planet being true to yourself than an entire lifetime which is a lie.


ps…….the only shame about your posts Justin is that we can’t hear that wonderful Scottish accent…..or should i say Scotch accent? 😆 😆 😆


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