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magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 6, 2008, 12:57

Unfortunately there are no real solid answers to some things but at least about Jesus yes there is and what he did and freed us from.



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
March 12, 2008, 00:10

Just a quick update, I would have posted this in the asking for prayer support section but I thought it might be a bit too intense for the general discussion and terribly out of context.


Tyler, one of the men who assulted me some time ago has been jailed on drug charges. He was caught with something like a thousand estacy tablets and other drugs I wouldn’t even know the name of. It has been alledged he delt at a local highschool 😥


Please pray for him. Hopefully jail will give him the time and oppitunity to sort himself out but I imagine it can also be rough, isolating and dangerous.



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
May 15, 2009, 17:53

Hey you whats been happening for you over yonder? 8)



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
May 16, 2009, 16:15

Sandy’s stimulating posts are missed



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
November 3, 2009, 21:35

forgive me Sandy…..you have more replies than Maggie



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
November 4, 2009, 18:48

Oh yeh, she always has had more replies 😀

Im ahead with the viewings but Sandy, Iain and myself always alternate with the number of views 8)



Ann Maree
 
Joined in 2008
November 5, 2009, 21:23

Hi Sandy


Wow!! You really are an amazing woman!


It’ll take me a while to fathom the depths of your forgiveness but I will try. This is a very powerful message, not least because forgiveness is not one of my strong suits. I guess I get attached to my passions and rights. And yet what you, Anthony and Magzdee said is right – God has forgiven us of so many things and when we really reflect on that in its fullness, the natural state or outcome for us to then flow in is forgiveness. You’ve made me see that. Thank you. (Now I just have to learn to apply it! 😕 )


It’s interesting that I’m reading this now. I was chatting recently to my ex husband and marvelling at how he forgave his uncle (a pastor) and church leaders for the spiritual abuse they inflicted on us and others. He said a similar thing to what you have all said, that God has been so kind and good to him that he couldn’t think of doing anything else but forgive. It was expressed so gently and unassumedly and yet I was struck by the power of it! Like a river washing all my arguments and ideas away until no words or obstructions were left. There are no words for that sort of thing, it’s just pure power.


On another note, how are you going in yourself since those traumas? (And I apologise if you’ve answered this elsewhere and I’ve missed it).


Thank you so much for sharing your story, Sandy. You are really inspiring. 😀


Ann Maree



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
November 6, 2009, 09:20

our sandy is pretty cool….isn’t she.:D


Forgiveness…..one of my favourite topics.


At its very least I think forgiveness is an act of self survival. Because when we hold on to stuff against people….the only person it actually impacts is us. the people we hold resents towards so often don’t even know how we feel and have moved on. Some others will engage with us in our resentments and all we do is create negative destructive energy.:(


Corrie Ten boon said. “Forgiveness is setting the prisoner free …only to realise WE were the prisoners “


someone else said. “Unforgiveness is taking the poison you intended for someone else”


So I forgive because it makes me a healthier better person.


At the top of the scale though it is divine….it is pure love where judgment can not exist.



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
November 6, 2009, 14:09

Hey, thanks for your responces. I’ve re-written this post like five times already and it’s made me realise that I’m just not ready to write it. My relationship with God is fragile right now and when I look back at that person who, with God’s strength, forgave I can barely see myself.


On another note, how are you going in yourself since those traumas?


Hmm good question. When I woke up in that hospital initially I couldn’t remember a thing because of the head trauma. The temporary amnesia wore off after a few hours. However the doctors say that when a person suffers from a traumatic event, esepically one involving prolonged physical assult the brain often diassociates itself from the event as a coping mechanism. You’d find this with someone who was assulted on a regular basis, say in a domestic violence situation, eventually the brain just disengages from the reality and they no longer feel the pain etc.


This occured for me too though it is rare. I remember what happened but it’s almost as if it happened to someone else or was a really vivid dream. My unconcious is still trying to work it out, I have nightmares and flinch involuntarily when someone touches me unexpectedly but the whole thing wasn’t very emotional for me. I knew what I was supposed to feel and to an extent I did feel those things but they were empathic responces. Like when we saw the towers fall on September 11 and we all felt sick and horrified. So anyway that’s where I’m at…probably not what you expected but it does explain why I was able to do things like see David months after the event and not crumble into a million peices. I’m not any stronger or better than anyone else. In a way I’m just luckier.



Ann Maree
 
Joined in 2008
November 6, 2009, 17:29

Hi Sandy


Your response doesn’t surprise me at all. I guess that’s why I asked, to give you an opportunity to respond if you wanted. I didn’t mean to push with the topic if you weren’t ready though (so please don’t feel you have to respond to this if you’re not up to it). I would completely understand if you don’t reply.


And just because you’re struggling with God at the moment, which would be totally normal after what happened, doesn’t make you any less than the forgiving person you look back to.


I think forgiveness and healing are complex processes and probably not well understood. From my experience, different parts of us need time to come to those places without pressure, especially after traumatic events. We might think that with a conscious decision we’re ready to move on but as you know we are so much more than our conscious selves. And just because our other parts need more time doesn’t make us weak or bad. It’s the way we were made afterall, and so God understands.


I’m sending you some healing energy and love.


Ann Maree


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