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Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
January 30, 2007, 06:43

Every time I tell this story (which isn’t often) I always wonder where to start. And usually some ingenious person says “well how about the beginning?” so here it is, from the beginning.


My first memory (and this says more about my appalling memory than it does about the significance of the event) is sitting in front of the TV watching Disney and thinking how pretty Ariel from the Little Mermaid looked. (My friends tease me incessantly about picking the most scantily clad Disney character there is!) Primary school I got along with everyone. I didn’t mind hanging out with the boys and climbing trees and the girls were intriguing so I would tag along there also. High school was a different kettle of fish (what does that mean anyway? “kettle of fish” it’s not like you cook fish in a kettle…unless I’m doing it wrong.)


I attended at the request of my parents an all-girls catholic school. I didn’t much care what people thought of me and for some reason I’m still at a loss to understand this made me quite popular. I have to admit I was a huge flirt. My openness about my emerging sexual orientation was gradual. I never spoke of it directly but after several years (and several kisses behind the school gym) it became apparent to all that I was a lesbian. Surprisingly this was accepted by most of my friends at the time and the staff amazingly enough never found out, or if they knew it was never mentioned to me.


At eighteen during the second semester of Uni. I pursued a medicine degree. There is a whole bunch of tests you have to take to get in and most people take up to a year off to study. I was popular here too but for a different reason. You see, I was downright terrible at medicine. The degree is so competitive that everybody likes the “dumb kid” because it makes him or her feel better about his or her own success or lack-there-of. I like to think my marks reflected more my lack of interest in the topic than my IQ but I’m alone in that assumption. Among the friends I made were a group of gay guys. They used to crack me up, I had never encountered, nor have I seen since, guys quite so feminine. One night after too much vodka I began telling some stupid story about kissing a cheerleader. (Which, for the record I’m almost sure is untrue, wayyyy too much vodka) They insisted on escorting me to a gay club the following night. It was here I was introduced to clubbing! Oh what I had missed!


Among others that night I met the woman I was to spend the next five years with. We will call her Marina…because that’s her name… 😉

The attraction was strong and instant, our relationship developed quite quickly. What can I say except 98% of the time it was wonderful. She seemed to ‘get me’ in a way no one else had or has since. She was, I believe, my soulmate. She was also very wise (but of course!) and made sure I stayed away from drugs and excessive alcohol consumption (bye, bye vodka). She was a number of years my senior and had seen the debilitating effects that these have on people and relationships. I developed many wonderful new friendships and in all honesty life was great.


I quit medicine after that one semester and attained a degree in social science. Marina and I also moved in together for the last three years of our relationship. After that degree I went on to study social work, which brings you up to speed on my academic studies. I was sitting at the Uni. One day studying for a test I’m sure was important and some crazy people in bright colored t-shirts with “Newcastle Christian Students” (original I know) printed on the back came up to me. I knew how to handle these guys! I had fended off many a Jehovah’s Whiteness in my day. I sat and listened saying nothing because I knew the less I said the more likely they would leave and I could get on with studying the implications of the social justice amendment or whatever it was. But the more I listened, the more I realized these people had something I didn’t. So I went along to one of their meetings. It was titled “Jesus as an alternative to religion” (a little more original). I could not have picked a better day to go it was truly the work of the spirit. Growing up catholic, being Christian to me was about religiosity, ritual and sitting in a dark cupboard telling the priest how you just had to buy those $200 pair of shoes, your know its greed but honestly, if God had seen them, he would have brought a pair too…maybe the latter only applies specifically to me… 😳


Through NCS I learnt what it was to be Christian, to read the bible and to live a godly life. I stopped short of allowing Christ to enter into my life as my Lord and Saviour. For me, this meant giving up the only woman I have ever loved. It seemed impossible, unthinkable, and undesirable. The people at NCS are some of my dearest friends, they are strictly conventional in their thinking on homosexuality and while making it clear that my behavior was unacceptable they showed me love, compassion and patience. I have been so blessed to have such wonderful experiences of Christian people. I know for sure that the spirit was working through me to bring me to Christ, I know because there is no way I would have made the tough decisions I did off my own merit. The day I asked Christ into my life I told Marina it was over.


There is never a nice way to break up with someone and she was devastated though not completely surprised as she was well aware of my journey into Christianity. We decided it was best or all intents and purposes to take a ‘break’ until I decided what I wanted. The ‘break’ was a complete sham! There was no way we could live in the same state and keep our hands off each other after five years! For months this went on. It ended up almost destroying us both, I can not imagine anything worse than sharing sexual intimacy with a person you love, then hearing them cry out to the Lord in shame. I cringe to think of how much that must have hurt. Conveniently her work offered her a transfer to Canada and she took it. That was eight months ago. I haven’t seen or heard from her since.


There is only one more event, which must be depicted before my story is complete. It’s the only truly negative experience I have had of gay people and it involves the same gay guys I met at med. school. I’m going to tell it all jokes aside, short simple, blunt. It’s the only way I can get the words out.


Shortly after Marina departed I went back to the club we used to frequent together to catch up with friends. I was there about an hour when I saw these three guys I knew leave, they looked high, I followed them out to make sure they got into a taxi ok. They saw me following them and confronted me about my break-up with Marina, I politely declined to offer details and they became agitated and angry. They had been good friends of Marina’s and held me responsible for her heartbreak and departure. I attempted to leave and head back inside and they grabbed me from behind and carried me about fifty meters or so around a corner where we were hidden in the darkness of the night. They were high and it is my understanding that they had no idea what they were doing. I was pinned down and gang raped. (Let me make it clear that they did not to this out of attraction to me at any level. It probably isn’t the most pleasant experience for a lesbian or gay person to have sex with someone from the opposite sex, but to do so against you will while pinned down by three guys in the darkness… I don’t have the words to express the terror and degradation I experienced.) I dimly recall being hit over the head several times and I must have passed out. I woke up in hospital, I still have no idea who brought me in, and he wouldn’t leave his name apparently.


I got off fairly lightly injury wise. There was severe tearing of my genital and anal area, a broken arm and concussion. I was very lucky. I was pressed by my parents and various other friends to press charges. Once the men had come down from their high and realised what they had done, all three of them turned themselves in to the police station. I was still unconscious at this point. Frankly I was surprised they had come clean. I asked to see them. To make a long story short I decided not to press charges. These men were graduating from their medical degree’s the following year; it would have destroyed their lives.


They were truly repentant. I was not in much of a frame of mind to hear apologies at that time but looking back, they were courageous in their own way. I wonder if in their position whether I would have turned myself in at the prospect of 5-10 years jail time. I choose the path of forgiveness more for my own benefit than theirs. Experiencing something like this can and has destroyed lives. I refused to let it destroy mine. I will be forever thankful that Christ worked in me to make me a Christian before this happened, if I wasn’t I would have been telling you a much sadder story. I’m also indebted to my friend Claire who was the only one who understood my decision to let these men walk free. She was my life raft and a true gift from God for many months.


Marina and I are no longer in contact; this was not because we parted angry. We are both simply mature enough to realise that when you have experienced love the way we have, you can never be ‘just friends’. It’s all or nothing.



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 30, 2007, 10:58

In all honesty I am at a loss for words but can say this with confidence, your incredible honesty and openess are commendable. The revelation of the compassion and grace of God is quite supernatural in one so young in the Lord, its truly beyond words……….I understand where you are coming from in your decision about those guys, in many many ways.

You are one brave and courageous woman and I have the utmost respect for you in sharing such a sensitive, revealing story……..Love and a lifetime of hugs to you Sandy.x



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
January 30, 2007, 12:54

I shouldn’t really be in the forum Sandy…..I have so much to do organising the book launch but I had to read your post……to the end.


your experience is inconceiveable…..i’m at a loss for words…..but i’m so glad you posted it.


Forgiveness is the way of freedom…..that so few realise. I work with a lot of people who are finding it hard to let go of the hurt and wrongs. I talk about the power fo forgiveness in my book and I’ll quote it hear……..I’m sure this will only reinforce what you’ve already experienced….but hope it helps.


God bless.


I’d seen what had happened to preachers who’d stepped out of the ministry because of immorality or marriage breakdown. I’d even helped a couple of them, like my friend Steve, whose wife had left him. The humiliation and rejection led to hurt and anger, then eventually bitterness and resentment destroyed them like a terminal cancer, eating away at all that had been good in their hearts. It was tragic to watch them become isolated and gather around them others who would feed their negative energy.


I had enough to deal with during the months ahead and, unless checked, those destructive emotions would eventually destroy me also. The next moment in my life was a defining one. One that I’ve often looked back on and when people have asked me how did you find such peace or how come you still have your sanity, I tell them of this moment when I knew the power of forgiveness would set me free. I’d read so much about how to let go and now was my opportunity to find it in a profound way myself. Unforgiveness is taking the poison you intended for another. Forgiveness is setting the prisoner free only to realise you were the prisoner. With a conscious act of my will I decided to forgive all my friends who had let me down and the denomination that had betrayed me. By letting all that go, I knew I would be free to move on.



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
January 30, 2007, 15:06

Lol, stop playing hooky and get back to work! 😆 So you read this post to the end huh? Makes me wonder how many of mine you don’t read to the end… 😉


It took me a couple of weeks to screw up the courage to post my story but I’m glad I did as well. After having read other’s stories I felt that mine was rather mild in comparison. It’s amazing how God gives us all individual experiences and trials so we are able to help, encourage and learn from each other. For me, experiencing physical or emotional abuse at the hands of someone I loved would have been so much worse. I can’t even imagine Marina ever hurting me intentionally but the very idea makes me sick. I value my relationships and friendships very highly and can not imagine living though some of the experiences people here have suffered. I have been truly humbled reading other people’s stories and encouraged by the warriors and highly compassionate people Christ has produced.


There was much more I could have written but I have read many books about the experience of rape and while they are quite moving the gruesome detail is usually unnecessary.


I forget who said “To err is human, to forgive divine” but truer words have never been spoken. People often ask me how I can find it in my heart to forgive these men. To me the answer is as simple and as complex as this. Only a few weeks earlier I received complete, soul cleansing forgiveness in Christ. It is only through having received forgiveness myself that I am able to forgive. Christ is always the ultimate example. I forgave three men for one act they committed while under the influence of drugs. Christ forgave the entire world for an infinity of sins; He gave his life in love and forgiveness. What I did doesn’t compare, nothing ever can. But in our own ways, everyday Christians are gently and lovingly reflecting Christ in their lives. I love others as I love myself (see? I love myself Anthony, you’d be so proud). I’m not even convinced that I would have turned myself in after committing such an act, at least not straight away. This humbles me, what these men did was despicable, degrading and traumatizing but in the end they showed a courage and an honesty that I don’t believe I possess. They taught me that I needed to look into my own heart and develop a Christ-based courage and honesty.


One of the men involved actually went into drug rehab a few months later. He sent me several letters thanking me and apologizing. It was obvious that while I had forgiven him, he had not in fact, forgiven himself. He was stuck in a vicious cycle of guilt and depression. I went to visit him in rehab and shared with him my knowledge of Christ, the complete forgiveness I experienced and the way it has transformed my life. For six weeks I visited him three times a week. On my last visit he accepted Christ into his life right there in front of me. I have never before experienced anything so powerful. Every time I saw him he would comment on the fact he couldn’t believe I was visiting him and encouraging him after what had happened. Some days I couldn’t believe it either, it was truly the work of the spirit. This goes to show the amazing impact a Christian life can have on others, actions speak louder than words and the Lord speaks louder than all of us.


I try to dwell on the positive memories, my ability through Christ to forgive and David’s conversion. It’s not all smooth sailing though. The nightmares are vivid and terrifying and some nights I can’t sleep at all (I wrote my story at 3am or there-abouts on such a night). It was hugely emotionally exhausting to have lost Marina and suffered this all in the same month. But God has provided. He has gifted me with many wonderful friends who have been such a help and he was with me through it all.


I’m not really the kind of person that ought to be left alone with their thoughts for too long or I come to some bizarre conclusions. I got it into my head that the rape was actually God’s punishment for my past sins. To me it wasn’t as crazy as it now sounds. My sin was sex with women so it stood to reason that my punishment would be forced sex with men… Thankfully Christ gently and lovingly showed me that this wasn’t so and the rape, in essence, had nothing to do with me as an individual and wasn’t my fault. I had revulsion of gay men for a long time after this. In the back of my mind I had the idea that gay males having sex was always like that, even with each other. Christ again is gently showing me how wrong this assumption is.


When I first read your book Anthony I felt like Christ was trying to tell me something. As your book was about accepting yourself as a gay man then I assumed that this was what I was to learn (except obviously in my case as a woman). But as time went on and I re-read your book for the fourth time and have conversed with you on this forum I realized that that wasn’t the reason. Your book depicts gay love and sex in a way that was completely unfamiliar to me and your compassion and love at odds with my pre-conceived ideas about gay men. Your book was a powerful testimony that gay men are just like the rest of us; they love, hurt and experience sexuality in the same ways. Your book was for me a powerful tool out of ignorance and a step on the road to recovery and wholeness. Thankyou.



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
January 30, 2007, 15:28

How very humbling to read about your journey Sandy…….The Lord is speaking mountains through you………..Even if it sounds “out there” to some people who dont know Jesus that you forgave these guys, it would certainly make one question “who is this Jesus, that could cause someone to be so full of mercy”?…….Thats awesome David got saved……Jesus spoke his love and forgiveness loud and clear through you, big time.



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
January 30, 2007, 16:24

I am also a little humbled to know that my story has impacted you as well in such a postive way…brushing away…some of the things that keep us from experiencing life in all its fullness……..four times…..a new record….the most i’ve heard so far is 3.


your post reminds me of a wonderful man i know in QLD Dr wendell Rosevear…..he is a gay christian (SDA), pshycholigist who works in prisons with sex offenders and others. For some time he was working with a man who had gay bashed a young 20 year old to his death. it was only after some time that Wendell revealed to him that he had actually murdered his friend. like your forgivenes he had a powerful effect. Love can do that. Hate won’t…….and without forgiveness love cant exist……no matter how many times people mouth the words. the saying is true “Actions do speak louder than words”. I think thats why so many in our community hate the church when they say they “love the sinner…..but hate the sin”…..they see the focus that is kept on the ‘sin’ and see little or no love in action.


We try to show love here and not present the angry/aggressive activist spirit that may have been the mode of some in the past.


love is more powerful as our lives show.


you are in inspiration. now i’m getting back to work again…….stop writing such wonderful post that make me want to reply 😆 😆 😆



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
January 30, 2007, 21:49

Well it’s 9pm so I’m going to make a tentative reply and hope that Anthony’s work day has finally and perhaps more productively drawn to a close. My apologies for aiding your procrastination, 🙄 if it makes you feel any better my posts were allot longer and I was working too, which says little for my work ethic.


I read your book twice in a row in the same day. I was so sure that the Lord was showing me something and it was right there and I was too blind to see it. I remember finishing it the second time after sitting down for like 10 hours reading it over and over and thinking “Great, just great, thanks God, now I’m going to have to e-mail this bloke, geez the things you ask of me!” 😀 Just goes to show that the Lord knows way more than I do because you ended up being kinda cool, even if you are a life coach. 😛 After we e-mailed a few times I read it again because I wanted to see if anything would jump out at me by this stage. I read it the fourth time while travelling for six hours, no particular reason, I was just bored… It’s amazing the different things you pick up on each reading.


Dr Wendell Rosevear sounds like a great guy. Criminals are just as deserving of Jesus’ love as the rest of us and I commend his bravery and stamina. You are right love conquers all, well maybe not all, but a great many things. “Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres… And now these three remain: faith, hope and love. But the greatest of these is love.” 1 Corinthians 4-7; 13


God created love under that definition. It makes me sad to see how love-less our world has become and it encourages me to love others more deeply. It’s also encouraging as God created this love and God holds this love for each of us. It’s like a big warm blanket.



Anthony Venn-Brown
 
Joined in 2005
January 31, 2007, 10:48

I’ve been corrected about some of the facts about the Wendell Rosevear story.


it seems he may have disclosed to the prisoner his connection to the murder victim before he began working with him and gave him the option.


the story is still a powerful demonstration of unconditional love.



Sandy
 
Joined in 2007
January 31, 2007, 12:30

I don’t think that this new information detracts from the love and forgiveness shown in the situation at all, for me it adds to it. Rosevear was up-front and honest with the other man, he gave him an out. I don’t know what connection Rosevear had with the victim but it must have been heart wrenching working with this man, a constant reminded of the victim. There is a difference between forgiveness and love. Rosevear forgave the man for killing the victim but he also showed love, he attempted to rehabilitate him in Christ. It’s easy to forgive, and mean it if you never have to see the other persona again, its allot easier to get over the hurt but Rosevear intentionally put himself in a position to help this man. How amazing.


I’m not sure how I would react if someone I loved were murdered. I can’t imagine feeling any love or compassion for the murderer. I am in awe of Rosevear; it is truly the work of Christ.



magsdee
Disabled
Joined in 2006
March 25, 2007, 13:05

Hey Sandy, just an encouraging note to say it’s awesome reading your posts again wink ……hmmm? will I regret saying that shock wink


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